tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10803421613305939.post4632368745595378452..comments2023-10-31T09:13:06.922-04:00Comments on SRAC "River, Rocks, and Time": SRAC Discoidal StonesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10803421613305939.post-20334876881334691972014-12-09T20:37:04.619-05:002014-12-09T20:37:04.619-05:00Have any discoidal ever been found in south Caroli...Have any discoidal ever been found in south CarolinaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07832334939571272081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10803421613305939.post-21794772326052739792014-10-30T08:59:49.306-04:002014-10-30T08:59:49.306-04:00My friend has a discoidal stone he found at a know...My friend has a discoidal stone he found at a known indian settlement many years ago. It is made of granite, about 4 inches across and 1 1/4 inches thick. What I don't understand is that this stone is so perfectly round and the dished part is also perfectly dished out. How could they possibly do this without the use of a lathe? The artifact is also very smooth polished. Shreckmeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11229588064780528093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10803421613305939.post-24284424788666785612011-03-20T09:05:16.222-04:002011-03-20T09:05:16.222-04:00I have a discoidal I found on my place in Tennesse...I have a discoidal I found on my place in Tennessee that, at one time, probably several thousand years ago, used to be a sloping river bank. I found many hand tools there, too, that, in my opinion, were used to clean animals and their pelts. Several are "turtlebacks", others are knives and awls. <br />Because of the proximity of these tools to the discoidal, I believe it was used as an aid when working the leather. <br />The ancients drilled holes in the animal hides so they could be tied together to make clothes, bags, etc. After it was cleaned and scraped, the hide was held, stretched over the discoidal and held beneath it with one hand while drilling a hole in it, against the discoidal, with an awl or drill in the other hand. That would explain why a hole or depression in the center of the stone was important. <br />The stone could also have been used to help shape the hides by pushing it against the pelt to stretch and soften it. <br />I think most stone artifacts had a utilitarian purpose, and not used for games or religious ceremonies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10803421613305939.post-69426855172599206332010-05-07T22:55:36.376-04:002010-05-07T22:55:36.376-04:00I have found several discoidals in plowed fields i...I have found several discoidals in plowed fields in Sussex, Virginia and some have no dimples and some do. The ones I found usually show polar abrading and and no dimples and probably were used as pecking stones to make smooth axe heads. One has a stain in both dimples. It was probably used to break the outer skin off of black walnuts and then for craking the walnuts. The only other use I can think of for the dimpled ones is for forcing a stick into a wood hole for spining and starting a fire. I believe the stone would not hold heat like the wood and would be part of most indians personal toolkit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10803421613305939.post-24830952621886471042009-10-28T07:07:02.801-04:002009-10-28T07:07:02.801-04:00When I took my Mother at 90 years old out of the d...When I took my Mother at 90 years old out of the desert to come live with me, Her neighbors had found totally round rock balls in a pit house that was covered over by a Nursery. They also found small flat rocks about one inch X one inch in size that looked like they had been pecked with rocks exactly like the huge cliff drawings you would see in caves, except they were all done on these small stones instead. The small rock drawings had desert bloom over the top of the drawings. I was told that the Indians left them in the Desert as prayers to God. Do you know anything about these two items?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10803421613305939.post-6787545831029896602009-10-01T12:48:53.651-04:002009-10-01T12:48:53.651-04:00can u explain to me
how river rocks are smooth an...can u explain to me <br />how river rocks are smooth and roundAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10803421613305939.post-53931055689780369802009-05-22T11:40:36.790-04:002009-05-22T11:40:36.790-04:00Even with (or w/o) the potter's wheel: one dis...Even with (or w/o) the potter's wheel: one discoidal stone is used inside to smooth & lift & shape the pot as it is formed & another similar-sized stone (or peehaps larger) is used outside, directly opposite, to help shape & thin & evenout the clay walls of the pot. Then after the pot (either wheel-shaped or handbuilt) has dried perhaps a day, the larger smooth stone is carefully rubbed against the outside to "burnish" the clay, actually strengthening it & giving it an actual shine or sheen (sometimes). Sometimes broken pieces of gours are used in this same way. Each are treasured "work tools" often passed down through time & through families because they attain a kind of magic & power for successful work through use over time.<br /> <br />I also believe that the same, or similar smooth stones were gently rubbed on the human body to assist healing & help knit broken bones back together & strengthen weakened conditions - symbolizing the strength of the rivers or streams or oceans from which these various stones were gathered, in belief that they possessed this water strength to impart to the patient, especiall children, who were wanted to grow strong & be swift & agile... Stone therapy is not a "new" therapy, but very ancient in healing...<br />Each type of smooth stone, depending upon where it was collected from, embodied that curative strength & natural attributes. This continues to be the case in many forms of tribal & individual healing practices...<br /><br />I could go on & on, but hope this will help ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10803421613305939.post-2001188618486286752009-05-18T19:30:00.000-04:002009-05-18T19:30:00.000-04:00I would vote for the game theory. There is a resem...I would vote for the game theory. There is a resemblance to a hockey puck here. Wasn't there a game played by hockey-sticking a rock down a long groove in the snow trying for distance? This<br />needs cool weather and lasting snow. Maybe these<br />are winter game artifacts. Where is the rock formation that these are from?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10803421613305939.post-78347962789378603012009-05-18T11:40:00.000-04:002009-05-18T11:40:00.000-04:00I suggest that "Discoidal Stones" were n...I suggest that "Discoidal Stones" were not originally used for gaming.<br /> <br />My opinion is that their original purpose is shown on the Birchbark Scrolls. <br />http://s243.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/Marburg72/Sacred%20Scrolls%20of%20the%20Southern%20Ojibway/?action=view&current=Figure24a.jpg<br /> <br />Here is an example from Cahokia that corresponds.<br />http://s243.photobucket.com/albums/ff280/Marburg72/Rocks%20with%20Holes/?action=view&current=engraveddiscoidal.jpg<br /><br />Purposes could range from an offering dish to a center of religion. I suggest that if we look at the Birchbark scrolls and the engravings on them, the circular engravings on such scrolls depict the original purpose of these objects.<br />Vince BarrowsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com